For that matter, there are a number of Mudcatters who are religious in one way or another - how many of them do bad as a result of their religious beliefs?

I am not sure if any are being acused of this but I hope it is not being suggested that their belief in the doctrines of any organised religion would prevent them from doing bad or even enable them to know the difference between right and wrong?

Perhaps members feeling they ahve to continue to excuse the rather obvous excesses and failings of their particular organised religions is less than helpful?