I am not sure that anyone was blaming these things on organised religion alone.

But it is interesting that in this thread the best defence that made here for organised religion - remains that it not alone in causing terrible things to be done in its name. Seemingly that as long as terrible things are done in the name of many other things - this somehow excuses the many terrible things done in the name of organised religion..............

But I seem to have more time for those members who stick to the basic tenets of their organised religions. At least you know where you are and how to deal with someone who holds that everything in the their holy books are the literal word of God or that the various creation myths are fact.

When I was young at my church school I remember being very confused by ministers who plainly did not themselves believe in aspects like Adam and Eve etc but not only continued in this organised religion but continued to preach what they accepted to be a fairy story to young children. This was what probably first aroused my suspicion that organised religion was perhaps not something to be totally trusted.   

It is rather the same with politics. I knew how to deal with Margaret Thatcher a lot better than I can Tony Blair and Co. Even though I disagreed with it and thought that everthing she said, did and stood for was dangerous - at least this was not casting off the less acceptable aspects and constantly changing shape in a vain attempt to appear to be all things to everyone.