But then again many would argue that embryos are not human beings yet either ... so, I figured that, in general, my generalization was not really a generalization at all.

Generally we may all agree with that. *Smiles*

But do you think we could ever come up with a generalisation on this matter that was broad enough for us all to agree on? I thought I had made such a generalisation.

Perhaps the problem is that the thought of reaching even the broadest of general agreement is not thought to be a good thing by some posters to this thread? Generally on other subjects - reaching a broad general agreement whenever possible is thought not only to be a good thing very often but the whole point.....To enable progress.

Where there is a will to reach agreement - there is usually a way. Where there is not a will - there is no way.

When some appear to feel terrified at the possibility that any agreement could be reached - there is no chance.

All that is being asked is for is a level playing field. For all those - organisations and individuals - who are undertake bad things - to take responsibilty for them. Are organised religions to be exempted from this and made a special case? That is how all this quibbling makes it appear.