Well, Shambles, I think most of us think it's obviously true that organisations and individuals who undertake bad things should take responsibility for them. If that's your point, then what's to discuss?

As far as I can see, nobody here has suggested that any organization should be shielded from any responsibility it might have - although it was pointed out that many (perhaps most) times, misdeeds are the work of individuals or groups of individuals. Oftentimes, the vast majority of members of an organization are totally uninvolved in (and unaware of) misdeeds that were done in the name of the group.

If there is to be discussion, perhaps it would be more fruitful if it would discuss a specific situation instead of a generalization. If you try to charactize or blame all members of a group based on the actions of a few, you end up with bigotry.

Some Christians use scripture and religion to justify beating their wives. If I'm a Christian and read scripture and practice religion, am I responsible for wife-beating?


-Joe Offer-