Well, I listened to 90% of Bush's State of the Union address and at the 20 minute mark I had cught him 8 lies, 2 half truths and 1 "Yeah, right" ( a new category added this year for stuff that you know he has no interst in, like making the US less dependent on foriegn oil)... There were a lot more "Yeah, right's" in the last part of the speech in the area of "domestic policy" wheere BUsh and the Repubs have taken a 5 year "pass"...

I did listen to Governor Tom Kaine (Va) and thought he offered more in his 10 minutes than Bush offered in his 1 hour...

One thing that came thru loud and clear, howver, in Bush's was he don't want no impeachement rumblings so he pushed hard for his domestic spying... Porblem is that had he felt he needed to do this he could have gone to his very Republican Congress and got legislation thru...

I don't buy his, "My job is to protect the American people"... (See "KatrinaGate" thread fir details...)

As for the "partisanship" issue, Bush made not one single attempt to find common ground...

Hey, I have laid out what is becoming my annual "State of the Union" here in Mudville and will continue to do so... This is now my second and I will, God Willin', continue to offer a few other things to think of other than the same-old-same-old....

As fir Martin??? He is a joke... He wouldn't come forth with any real ideas if his life depended on it because he has no ideas...

No brag, just fact...

Bobert