I can't help thinking how annoying it must be for the *person* (I'll give him/her the benefit of the doubt - could be *mensch* like us) who posted the original thread to read all of our facetious side-stepping of the original question. Like trying to have a productive discussion with a politician about a pressing social need. All you get back is some fancy footwork and some hot air.Hmmm. Does that sound like a folkie session by any chance? A bit of dancing and some wind instruments. ;->
Helen