Jaxon, I've tried to send a personal message through this site and the the page just hangs there. If you can include your e mail and send me another message I'll oblidge your request. I really like mudcat, it's people, topics but I have a difficult time going from place to place inside the site. I have to accept blame for that since I'm relatively new to the cyberspace thing.Let's try it again....Yours Jack mostly folk....