Joe, Shambles, and anyone else who has asked "can we agree on this," - when we agree on anything, we'll have to start watching for pig poop falling from the sky. People aren't going to agree on what a healthy state of affairs is, because some people think any argument or disagreement spoils things. Some feel it's ok for people to get mad at someone else as long as they do so politely, and some understand a little bit of impoliteness in a heated argument. I'm sure the vast majority of us would agree that a post having nothing to do with a person's words, but only attack a person, has no value or purpose other than to distract and gain attention. They aren't worth the effort of reading let alone responding to.

No matter what my opinions on BS and healing circles, I find it appalling that we should turn a thread about someone's suffering into a soap box. Next time, if people feel compelled to repeat these arguments, would it be possible to start a separate thread?