No, Art: I don't think that I am better than those who "Make some points at the expense of those who are better off in limbo." I'm trying to live my own life the best that I can and at least try to avoid feeling superior to someone else. I've got several lifetimes worth of weaknesses and insensitivities to overcome. Trying to make yourself feel better by judging others is a losing proposition. Even being focused on yourself too much is a losing proposition. The book The Purpose Driven Life begins with one simple sentence, and I couldn't agree more: "It's not about you." It's not that important to me what others believe, as you know, my friend. When I started this thread, I spoke from my heart and the Catter who came to mind first was Martin Gibson, who is Jewish, and still says things from time to time that I find offensive but has made more positive, non-inflamatory contributions too. I applaud any effort at change. He has made an effort to reign in his more extreme attacks. Bill D came to mind because I find him a real Gentle-man.
We are at opposite poles on matters of faith, yet I consider him a friend, as I do you, Art. Little Hawk is a peace maker and I respect him for that. In this world, peacemakers aren't always blessed. If you're angry and itching for a fight, peacemakers are the last people you want around.

From my perspective, too much of the world is driven by the loudest, most aggressive people at the extremes. I see people who are angry about what is happening in the world, or their community who focus their energy on the problem and the people who are responsible. They shoot with a rifle, not a shotgun with bird pellets. That's what we all need to do. And sometimes, showing respect for people who we don't feel deserve respect can open a door to communication and resolution.

Jerry