One thing I know it is not necessary to put down a group of people in order to stop driscrimination and bad treatment to others...Bobert and whoever else...no need to be smug about white guys. White guys died in the West Virginia mines recently. Some are helping to liberate others in Afghanistan and Iraq. They drive trucks, crawl under houses to fix plumbing, run little diners, pay child support, or not...most are not out oppressing anyone. They loaded up trucks and boats with food and water and tarps to help out after Katrina. They rushed upstairs in collapsing buildings during 9/11. No need at all to put them down as a group. As individuals, go right ahead. mg