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Thread #88999   Message #1675606
Posted By: autolycus
22-Feb-06 - 05:36 AM
Thread Name: BS: America's shame
Subject: RE: BS: America's shame
Gervaise- I wonder if it is because both the U.S. parties are parties of the rich, AND TRHAT CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TO BE RICH TO GET GOIBG AS A PARTY   (sOrry - the caps were accidental).

Not for nothing do phrases exist like military-industrial complex, corporate America, and so on.

The populations are (mostly) literate and (mostly) ignorant. Thank goodness so many 'catters are so well informed that they can put us onto vital information. How the States is run is the result of a combination of education and ignorance, the mortgage, upbringing, religion and loads more.

Thread title should be the "U.S.'s shame" (or similar). I've read that Venezuelans too object to "America" being used as a synonym for the U.S.A. I always use U.S.,U.S.A., the United States, the States - we not exactly short of choice.

As far as I can see, the U.S. has a vast spectrum of people (obvious,innit?), so I no more put Americans (any synonyms?) in one box than any other group.

What's to be done about the dreadful things being done by Western Governments?

"it is an exceeedingly difficult point for modern man to understand and accept, the (person) and (their) supporting world must be in intimate contact ...........but if ......the (person), by virtue of fears and trepidations acquired in previous (experiences), does not dare iniate and take resposibility for the necessary contacts, then, since they must occur for life to go on, the initiative and resposibility are thrust upon the environment. Persons differ with respect to what part of the environment they expect to do this work. It may be, for instance, 'my folks', 'the government', 'society', or 'God'. Such agencies are supposed to 'supply me with what I need' or else 'm a k e   me do what I ought to do.'

In the quotation, first published 1951, "contact" is defined as "Your sense of the unitary interfunctioning of you and your environment".

And a first step to contact in the situation of us and ,let's say, the U.S. government is becoming better informed. It's not that the knowledge is unavailable, or that we are ill-educated.

Ivor