'the people with the same sort of ideas, as you put it, would have plenty of opportunity to discuss those ideas effectively in a non-partisan Congress or Assembly and in public meetings, both before, during, and after an election involving no political parties'

I think this is an interesting quote from Little Hawk, above. Ideas can be generated and polished in such events then passed to others to legislate - but the legislaters need to be accountable and so we lead back to groups wiht some kind of long term organisation.

The current failure of the party sustem is that those assemblies or public meetings don't really happen and our senior elected members act as if they are unaccountable.

Just chucking them out is a start but in the long term we want then to do what we the people want and I think this leads back to ..........