Roger, Peace, Bert and others - I suspect there is NOTHING anyone can say/post and which might be very wise or true that won't be shat on, misunderstood, twisted around, ignored, red herringed or raged against by someone (or even somemany ).

There is nothing that will be responded to by one and all with "So right" or equivalent.

On the one hand , I agree that abuse, personal attacks add nothing to any discussion(and people will continue to do so for aeons)

On the other hand, everything we say involves judgement/choice - which quotation to post, which question to ask, what to count as facts or as relevant.

One set of judgments perhaps worth making is which posters to bother to read and which to scroll past automatically.

Finally, Roger, what's your opinion of making statements rather than quoting and asking questions? (if you don't mind me asking)



Ivor