This site has become an archive, in fact a damn fine one. Tt contains wonderful musical history, phenomenal perspective changing debates, and whole communities of friends on three continents that jelled around its discussions.

There is agreement with this at least but do you not accept any blame? A look at the music section will show that this is still the case with our forum. But the change that is proposed will only encourage those who you judge - to do so on the music section. And we will be back where we started.

I also agree about those who 'consistently attack and destroy, whine, bitch, and moan' are responsible. But these posts are only seen as this or thought to be a problem when what is being moaned about is not what the usual suspects want the hear. If this public moaning is what they want to hear - for example what could be judged as your attacking, whineing bitching, moaning about and judgement of your fellow posters in your above post - this will be seen as encouragment for others to join in.

The division we now see is because imposed censorship action that will shape our forum will now be taken against things like copycat threads, 100 posting claims, birthday threads, in direct response to some posts moaning about having to see what other poster's choose to post. Rather than these posters being told that it is none of their business. As they are not being forced to read or respond. And if the moan coincides with the personal tastes of one poster - who is not above leading the public moaning themselves - they will impose censorship action.