So Ron,

You want me to tell you what exactly "victory" in Iraq would consist of this time.

OK, how long do you have?

Oh, and from whose perspective? The list is quite long:
- Iraqi Federalists;
- Iraqi Secularists;
- Iraqi Arab Shia followers of Sadr;
- Iraqi Arab Shia followers of Al Sistani;
- The Maadan;
- Iraqi Arab Sunni's;
- Iraqi Kurdish Shia;
- Former Ba'athist Party Members;
- Iraqi Christians;
- Expatriate Iraqi's;
- Jordanians;
- Syrians;
- Turkish Kurds;
- Iranian Kurds;
- Iranian Arab Shia;
- Iranian Government;
- Kuwaiti Government;
- Saudi Government;
- United Arab Emirates;
- Israel;
- EU;
- UN;
- USA;
- UK;
- France;
- China;
- Russia;
- Germany;
- Al Qaeda in Iraq;
- Sadr Brigade;
- Medhi Army;
- Answar al Islam;
- Al Qaeda;