Actually, I have no prob with the above...yes, they were 'just dogs' and we are getting over it, but even if they were 'just dogs' they were Family and we miss them. The biggest point to all this is the sewer. And yes that is where we have the Prob..they were counting on us, and we failed them. We/I DO try to help others....

Garg, I'm SURE you are off your meds....you are actually almost being a kind human and making sense....(grin)