The USA is riding high right now, as Rome once did, as the British once did, as the Germans once did. In such times a conquering empire will always have its enthusiastic supporters (mostly on the home turf). That's natural. Those supporters will accuse people who oppose the empire's self-interest of being malcontents, traitors, and varous other things like that. It's strictly a subjective point of view. A traitor from one point of view is a patriot from another. It always has been that way, and it always shall be.

Patrick Henry was a traitor to England, the established power of its time, and a patriot to the revolutionaries who opposed the establishment. Just like Jane Fonda! (grin)

The only reason you conservatives don't like Jane Fonda is....you think the way the English did who executed Patrick Henry. You support the powers that be around you, and are opposed to anyone who questions them.

Well, like the English who executed Patrick Henry, you will find in time that the establishment you now consider the answer to mankind's problems was just another passing phase in the sorrows and tribulations of humanity, and was not the answer after all, but a major part of the problem.

Political opinions, anyway, are as much an accident of birth as anything else. Early childhood influences usually set the way you look at political things pretty well for the rest of your life. There's only one person in 10,000 out there that's totally unbiased and capable of complete objectivity, and I wouldn't claim to be, that's for sure.

Condoleeza is a former oil company career person, is she not? (Like many other key people in the Bush administration.) Well, these wars are about oil and corporate financial considerations, not about exporting an enlightened form of democracy to anyone. But that doesn't mean that Condi doesn't believe in a good deal of what she says. She may indeed believe almost all of it. I don't.