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Thread #90225   Message #1709256
Posted By: Little Hawk
02-Apr-06 - 11:26 PM
Thread Name: BS: Condi go home
Subject: RE: BS: Condi go home
Are you willfully misunderstanding me, Martin, or just not bothering to read?

I was referring to this post:

Thanks for the kind comments folks. The developing debate got me thinking about the nature of tolerance. I don't normally cut n'paste things, but this piece by American psychologist David Kiersey is worth it; it's about relationships, but I reckon it applies just as well to geopolitics...

Different Drummers, by David Kiersey

If I do not want what you want, please try not to tell me that my want is wrong.

Or if I believe other than you, at least pause before you correct my view.

Or if my emotion is less than yours, or more, given the same circumstances, try not to ask me to feel more strongly or weakly.

Or yet if I act, or fail to act, in the manner of your design for action, let me be.

I do not, for the moment at least, ask you to understand me. That will come only when you are willing to give up changing me into a copy of you.

I may be your spouse, your parent, your offsping, your friend, or your colleague. If you will allow me any of my own wants, or emotions, or beliefs, or actions, then you open yourself, so that some day these ways of mine might not seem so wrong, and might finally appear to you as right -- for me. To put up with me is the first step to understanding me. Not that you embrace my ways as right for you, but that you are no longer irritated or disappointed with me for my seeming waywardness. And in understanding me you might come to prize my differences from you, and, far from seeking to change me, preserve and even nurture those differences.


In it he is clearly not talking about a dialgue with anyone who cuts people's heads off...he's talking about discussing stuff with other people on this forum...or in some normal conversation with people of differing political views, in other words.

There's nothing in that post that would not improve our relations with other people if we had the sense to follow it. But most people are too fucking proud (or make that insecure) to take even a second or two to try to understand another human being aren't they?