purple foxx you have a problem you seem to be a small minded englander who doesn't realise that england is no more! ireland has a real identity and a true culture unlike england which has a mishmash of pseudo cultures. somebody mentions that george did a favour for "norman" knights what a lot of tosh, the only reason that he is the p saint is cos some tosser liked the design of george and the dragoon so they nicked it and used it on the order of the garter. Then some latewr poofy king adopted it.