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Thread #90177   Message #1712134
Posted By: Wolfgang
06-Apr-06 - 04:35 PM
Thread Name: BS: Iman shames the U.S military?
Subject: RE: BS: Iman shames the U.S military?
or is hypocricy a nice enough word?..Ake

Ake,

hypocrisy is actually the word that pops up when reading your first contribution here and your response to me. Your carefully selective outrage has nothing to do with the victims of that crime in my reading. Reread your first post and you'll see that it nearly exclusively deals with Mudcatters and what you see as a lack of reaction. Any outrage by you about that crime can only be inferred indirectly by reading between the lines. You seize the opportunity to make a cheap shot at people with other opinions. For you it is an opportunity for propaganda, fuck the victims.

You simply don't have the time to open all threads (the last two threads about crimes from the other side were not started by me, BTW), that's fine ( I understand that for I also don't open much more than a third of the threads) but why is what you consider a good excuse for you not an equally good excuse for others?

Sorry, but your role and behaviour in this thread is far below your usual level.

McGrath, as you say from the victims point of view it doesn't matter who did the killing, but your point why it should matter to 'us' (the last paragraph) makes a lot of sense. In that sense I agree that 'we' should be more worried about crimes by the US army than by terrorists operating in Iraq.

Ard Mhacha, sorry, I know what you mean, but the way you have said it I just can't resist reading you verbatim: have you any coneption what it is like to have terrorists[US troops] in your country riding roughshod Over the civilian population?.
The US troops in my country? Yes I have a conception not by own experience but by reading reports from others and by listening to people older than I am: the occupying US army in our country was godsend in '45 for saving lots of lives and relieving us from a nightmare. In retrospect, we are very grateful to have had the US army in our country. There have been some crimes by the occupiers and there have been unnecessary civilian casualties with little consequences for guilty occupying soldiers. But all in all, we are extremely grateful to have had that experience.

Ard, I know you are speaking from another experience with an army but the German experience with occupying US and British armies (I do most definitely not include the Russian army) has been overwhelmingly good.

Wolfgang