Ain't much left to discuss--all attempts to discuss with Shambles fell on deaf ears as best I can tell. So few of us try to do it anymore.

Myself--I just play. Used to let Shambles' bullying (and bulldozering) way of 'discussing' run me off the playground. I thought he felt strongly about some point and would steamroll over every attempt to actually discuss it--either that or the poor boy was deaf and so didn't realize people were talking to him.

Now I realize it is just his way of playing--learned his rules--and have been playing with him ever since, without any problem whatsoever!
I come to all his parties.

Janie