Anyone who sees a major 'us vs. them' thing going on here betweene those who edit and those who don't, trace your belief that a division exists back to the very earliest, and you're likely going to find a post by Shambles criticising a division that didn't yet exist.

Roger, you single admins out your special attention, then call us 'fellow posters' who should be no more equal than anyone else. Who claimed we were, other than you? You have to make us seem more significant than others, and make people believe that's what WE think, so knocking us down can make you look like you're doing something besides stalking, harrassing or run-of-the-mill macho head butting. It's a battle wholly of your own creation. YOU created the rift, YOU got into a pissing contest with Joe that seems to have grown to epic proportions, YOU post thread after thread that don't discuss anything so much as harrass individuals, then have the nerve to say, "...posters assume that I must have done something really awful... However, no one seems to know or be able to spell out exactly what this truly awful thing might be."

I'll spell it out. My opinion. You stalk Joe. You try to create divisions between people so you have a crusade. Your actions are repetitive and boorish and, as far as I can tell, pointless. At least they're without any stated goals on your part. I think this is a vendetta, it's 100% personal, and the only goal I can see that would logically be at the end of your actions here is to keep the argument growing and the bad feelings increasing. You may honestly believe you're doing something else, but I rather think you DO know what you're doing, and I think you just hate Joe.

Unfortunately, Joe has a very positive outlook regarding people, to a point that drives me nuts at time. What it means though, is that he will likely just keep being reasonable at you, and you'll keep trying to make him lose it. In the meantime, you've made yourself the only person on Mudcat I consistently hope never to meet. As far as I can tell you've done little, if anything, to make Mudcat a better forum, and a great deal to tear it apart, and for what? Your ego? Posting what other people say over and over is supposed to demonstrate what? You can't organize and post post your own words?

No, I don't expect you to answer. I don't even expect you to wonder if, just maybe, you come off as a bit insane, or that I'm not simply trying to continue an argument but tell you, honestly, what I believe. I can understand that you don't expect others to try to post without guile, since you don't seem capable of it. *smiles*

Any belief that this post means I wish to discuss rather than just make a statement is mistaken.