Hi Jerry, I have missed the table for a few days,hearing you talk about sacred harp brings back lovely memories of Dave Brient, he organised a sacred harp workshop at the Walton on Naze festival one year, no one really had a clue what it was about, by the second day he had about thirty singers , people passing the hall popped their heads round the door and joined in, they were so good that by the Sunday evening I added them to the concert programme. They brought the house down,wonderful happy memories.