"Corruption and power-grabbing started in the Christian church even before the execution of Jesus."


WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!! Say what, Don??????   ;-)

There WAS no Christian church until some time after the execution of Jesus. There was a Jewish church...and he and his disciples were attempting to reform it. Their attempt was categorically rejected, so they eventually (well after his death) set about establishing a new church which came to be called "Christian".

Now, if you are saying that the Jewish church of Jesus' time had corruption...well, yeah! And if you're saying that the later Christian Church of Rome and Byzantium had corruption...well, yeah!

Power structures do tend to corrupt people, don't they? That's why you find much corruption in the US government, for example, and the Russian government, and most governments...quite apart from the religious issues. You hardly need religion for corruption to thrive... (grin)

To characterize an entire field of human belief and endeavour as corrupt, however, merely because some of it is corrupt is to adopt a position based not on constructive thought, but on rank prejudice.

I believe that is the point that some of the people on this thread are trying to make when they point out that blanket attacks ON religion are as stupid as blanket fundamentalist attacks on various other things which might be termed "liberal" ideas or practices.