OK heric, so now we're not allowed a little thread drift, to me that IS a big deal. That is NOT why people have been given an edit button.

Actually, Bee-dubya-ell there is a computer glitch that does happen sometimes. If when you hit the submit button, the server take too long to post the message then it can get lost. This situation is always immediately apparent because the message never appears at all.
We have all lost messages that way.

There were earlier deletions on this thread because I had two PMs from different members complaining that their messages had been deleted. This is a different situation because the messages originally appeared.

The two PMs came from members who I KNOW have been 'deleted' in the past and those deletions were confirmed. I have no reason to believe that they would both independently complain about messages being deleted from THIS thread. Too much of a coincidence.

I think it is time to STOP deletions from taking place without an explanation. I can accept that some editors are too chicken to put their names down, but I don't see anything wrong with saying something along the lines "This message was deleted because ....".

Perhaps Jeff could fix it so that if a message is deleted then the header remains and then there could be no denying that a message had been tampered with.

Whoever is deleting these messages surreptitiously is doing a great disservice to the Mudcat, and is the DIRECT CAUSE of all these censorship threads that are wasting so much of our time.