Thanks Sorcha, if you ARE Kat, can I count on two votes?

Hi Andres, I won't ask you about the weather again! The situation (to me) has gotten like the proverbial jam sessions and song circles that have been discussed many times (without serious incident) here. What do you do when the original focus is disintegrating? Well, some move on to other groups, some sit tight and hope for the best, and some make and enforce a few rules. My point was that if rules HAVE to be made to keep this wonderful site less annoying than it's become lately, I'm all for them. I have no qualms whatsoever of being selfish in this case.

Sorry to disagree with you Joe, but I guess after seeing what utter chaos can do to the atmosphere, it makes any previous complaints I had about directions, quite unimportant. Civility has become the only issue that I care about right now.

Rick