Sorry Hawk, but I go only for the real thing!! That of course is the "Rust Level Treatment" at the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed. First and still the best, it gave Shatner his first professional help and allowed him to realize his full potential as a world class dork, complete asshole, and master screw-up!!! He went on from there of course but he owes it all to the NYCFTTS......and that's the fact Jack!

Spaw