Sorry freda, but I'll be blunt. The suggestion I posted just to offend Joe Offer to hijack a thread I started myself is just plain stupid.

I refuse to get into some idiotic tit for tat flame war with those of you who stalk threads, flamethrowers at the ready.

Nice try trying to suddenly bring the thread back on topic so Joe won't look bad, but it's too little, too late.

Go argue with yourselves, I'm outta here.