What should we have done, roll over and lay down ?

Sorry that isn't in me. Not that kind of guy.

Divis, I wouldn't like you any other way:-) Me neither. Probably why I can't help myself when I see what I view as inaccurate statements;-)

I am not disputing anything you have said at all - Just taking ard mhacha to task about the use of the term 'scum of the earth' to generalise about the army. I don't think they are but accept that some people see them as such. Just as I accept that some people will always see that 'All coppers are bastards'.

I don't think it does anyones cause, or the flow of the argument, any good to generalise or resort to simple name calling. It just invites similar from the other side. And you have already felt what an escalation of bad feeling can end up like:-(

Would ard's message not have been more effective if it contained exactly the same words without the 'scum of the earth' statement? Don't you think that was just a knee-jerk gining the opposition carte blanche to respond in kind?

Just my views and not much to do with the argument in question realy. But, like yourself, when I see something I believe to be wrong I am not a roll over and die type of guy!

Cheers

DtG