I've run unto a lot of evangelists out to save my soul and I've had a fair number of run-ins with fundamentalists out to try to convince me that the power of their faith transcends rational thought. And I've also run into a fair number of disciples of Madalyn Murray O'Hair, not to mention those of Ayn Rand, also a hard-charging atheist, whose arguments are essentially the same as those of the evangelists and fundamentalists, but in the negative. They all exhibit a certain desperation in their desire—their need—to get others to agree with them.

What I read above sounds awfully familiar.

Ar282, if your long post above is original and not cut-and-paste, then it indicates to me that you seem to have a lot of time to devote to this, not to mention a pretty substantial emotional investment. I can't help but wonder what your motives are, beyond the relentless pursuit of truth.

Don Firth