I was never saying Jesus didn't exist in some form

So, you never said...

There is not a shred of evidence to prove that any such person existed. The only literature from that time period to state it is so is the bible and other Church literature and let's just say that literature is likely to be somewhat biased. We need independent and impartial evidence and there is not a shred. None. Zilch.

I give up as well. Your anti-religious fundementalism is worse that the TV evangelists we hear preaching for it!

And why should I admit anything like you request about the figure of Jesus? One minute he doesn't exist at all, Next he is a self-righteous, nasty, little scumbag who said nothing of value. What I am willing to accept is that no-one realy knows anything about him apart from the worlds major religion was built in his name. Why would you want to defame a person who you know nothing about, has been dead for 2000 years and can do nothing to defend himself? Sounds like insecurity to me. Perhaps you need to get yourself a religion:-)

Cheers

DtG