"They're [Christians are] the people who say science is wrong and science cannot replace faith and all this rot but then turn around and try to use science to prove their case."

Some Christians, those of the fundamentalist persuasion (and not the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree) are the ones who are unhappy with science because it clashes with their beliefs—beliefs, which I might add, don't have anything to do with the teachings of Jesus. It has more to do with the Book of Genesis and the creation myth. That's PRE-Christian. This particular brand of "Christian" hasn't made it beyond the sixteenth century yet.

There is a fair number of Christians who are scientists. There is a fair number of scientists who are Christians. And I am not talking about the rather pathetic attempts to mimic science put forth by the "intelligent design" faction of crypto-fundies.

AR282, you're doing the "All Christians believe— All liberals believe— All conservatives believe— All druids believe" thing. That's a crock, and you know it.

Your arguments for your weak, unsupportable beliefs are beginning to sound a little desperate.

(Why do I waste my time? This is like arguing with a used-car salesman who's standing there with his bare face hanging out and trying to sell me a heap that's obviously been totaled. I should just turn my back and walk off the lot, leaving him to talk to himself.)

Don Firth