I have to agree with you, Bob. Whether or not the state of union will be too little, too late only time will tell.

Now that Martin Gibson is gone, it's becoming clear who the problem posters are that are dragging the level of discussions here down into the gutter. As I said, lots of mini-MGs are left behind, and as you note, they too are always spoiling for a fight, and looking for a thread to pollute with their negativity.

I think a lot of people are just now starting to wake up and smell the coffee, now that the stench of Martin Gibson has begun to fade.