Apologize for what? The only thing that I will apolgize for is the tardiness of my reply I don't live on here, I do have a life.

My God man are we not debating here? Have I ever asked for an apology from you? Your figures are wrong. Did you not count those innocents murdered by the British army in collusion with loyalists and British agents. Murder by proxy is still murder. I provided the links above, go back and do a body count. Those sites don't include all victims either. They don't mention the deaths attributed to the FRU as far as I can tell. That may be a thread for another day.

As I keep saying and you keep missing, deliberately or otherwise I abhor the deaths of all innocents. I have also said that the IRA were charged, tried and convicted for acts perpetrated by them. Whereas the army, but for only two cases that I can find, were not. In those two cases the soldiers in question served two years of a fifteen year sentence for murder and were then accepted back into the army. The British army have had carte blanche to do what they wanted in N. Ireland with no apparent repercussion. Bloody Sunday eg. We suffered through state sponsored terror for years. Who did we have to turn to, tell me who?

Maybe that is why I am taciturn in my criticism of the IRA. I never openly supported them but it was reassuring to know that they were around. Otherwise I'm not sure what the situation would have been like for nationalists.

I don't recall calling you a bigot Keith maybe you can point that out to me. I do wonder at times at your defence of a government that would select a number of its citizens and subject them to such horror.

I don't appreciate your inference that I have acted in an adolescent way (that's a little like calling names, no) when I said that you'd won. I believe that you feel you need to win Keith. We seem to be going around the doors and I get the feeling you are reluctant to really listen to what I'm saying.