"Would it still be a travesty of humanity if the United States was obviously winning?"

... define obviously winning .... a nation totally brutalized into submission?

Actually ... winning has no meaning in my disgust and revulsion of the slaughter of innocent human beings of any race, any nation, any religion.

Carol ... I can see your point in 'numbers' having an impact ... I guess I'm one who can see through the 'numbers' .... I just see the faces of human beings.

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