The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #92115   Message #1757367
Posted By: Azizi
11-Jun-06 - 03:39 PM
Thread Name: 2026 Mudcat origins question
Subject: RE: 2026 Mudcat origins question
Hmmm.

It also occurs to me that the "Brick wall" part of that rhyme could have originated in The Commodores' 1977 R&B hit "Brick House". This song praised a stacked [well built] woman with these words:

Artist: The Commodores Lyrics
Song: Brick House Lyrics

Chorus:
She's a brick----house
Mighty mighty, just lettin' it all hang out
She's a brick----house
The lady's stacked and that's a fact,
ain't holding nothing back.

She's a brick----house
She's the one, the only one,
who's built like a amazon
We're together everybody knows,
and here's how the story goes.

Verse:
1. She knows she got everything
a woman needs to get a man, yeah.
How can she use, the things she use
36-24-36, what a winning hand!


(Chorus)


Verse:
2. The clothes she wears, the sexy ways,
make an old man wish for younger days
She knows she's built and knows how to please
Sure enough to knock a man to his knees

(Chorus)

Bridge:
Shake it down, shake it down now (repeat)

source: http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/undercoverbrother/brickhouse.htm

-snip-

It may be that both these possibilities are valid [or neither one is valid]. I don't think children spend very much time [if they spend any time at all] trying to figure out the meaning of a rhyme. For instance, I think that children hear "Brick Wall/Water Fall" as words that make sense to them :o) and rhyme..The meaningfulness is important, but it's the sound of the rhyme that trumps everything else AND the fact that the rest of the rhyme fits into a familiar pattern of two sentence rhymes that children are familiar with.

I don't think that children say to themselves "When I say brick wall/water fall" I'm calling that girl [or guy] a wallflower.

In other words, I think adults speculate about these questions of source materials and meanings. Kids say & do rhymes as a means of self-entertainment without getting heavy duty about them.

Btw, Mo. Thanks for giving me [and others] the opportunity to think out loud about children's rhymes on this thread and other threads that you have recently started.


Azizi