Wow. For some reason I had been under the impression that the football violence that so frequently breaks out during the World Cup was invaribly triggered and participated in by and among the countries such as those in South America, although I remember reading about Italian crowds rioting. But England? Staid old merry England?

In the US the closest to this kind of activity is when, for instance, a National Basketball championship series has ended. Oddly- not often but often enough - sometimes there is rioting even in the city that took the championship. Which makes no sense at all.

Back to the thread: When a crowd of supporter says "We won the war", do they realize how silly that is? That war has been over with more than 60 years; these supporters had nuffink to do with it. If they keep going like this, they could end up like the US. ;)