The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #92279   Message #1762326
Posted By: Joe Offer
17-Jun-06 - 02:29 PM
Thread Name: Origins: I've Got Sixpence, Jolly, Jolly Sixpence
Subject: RE: who wrote I've got sixpence jolly jolly
I'da sworn it was traditional, but Iona and Peter Opie's Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes says words and music were by Box, Cox, and Hall - in 1941:Other sources say that the 1941 copyrighted version was by Elton Box and Desmond Cox - but is the Cox-Box song the version we all know?.

That's not the whole story, of course. The Opies say this is an old song, given new life by Tin Pan Alley - but the Opies trace printed versions back to 1810.

The primary version in the Opie book is this:

Aw, that's sweet.....

Then there's a version that starts with twelvepence:



Then the Opies cite "Jolly Shilling" (from Williams, Folk Songs of the Upper Thames, 1923):


The version I learned in 1950's Detroit is what's in the Digital Tradition, except that I think those were "saucy little girls" that were deceiving me. Now, is the DT version a copyrighted version? The Opie book doesn't give enough information to determine that. Here's the first part of the DT version:
There's quite a bit of information at folktrax.org:
Can anybody find the Hugill version and post it? My copy of Shanties From the Seven Seas is the edition from Mystic Seaport Museum, and doesn't seem to have it - is the Mystic edition abridged?