Jim, Mike Ryan is a piper who plays (or played?) with Cara, a trio from somewhere around east Yorks, north Lincs. According to Micca, it seems he's the best, and pipers like like Nick Scott (Last Night's Fun) and Paul Brennan (various bands, played on Gangs of New York soundtrack, played at the BBC Proms with the Royal Phil, etc) are simply not significant.*G*