Thanks alot Stewie, You don't know how much it means, to my grandpa, he was about 10 years old he says, when he first heard em. And I was telling him I could find out perhaps on the internet. So after hours of searchin, I finally found this site. Thanks again, buddy. anymore info, would be greatly appreciated, and I can't wait to call him to tell him this tommorrow. It seems these Arizona Wranglers were quite an elusive bunch. Jeff