Nothing beats direct experience, guys. Beside that all else is just a lot of hot air.

Remember, because one believes something does not mean that one is out to PROVE it to anyone else. In my experience it's mainly just sceptics who are hung up on proving or disproving things that otherr people believe...mostly because it's a question of proving that they are right and someone else is wrong. That's what the ego loves to spend its petty little time doing.

And it makes no difference whatsoever to anyone else but that ego.