Anything is "debatable," breadedbruce. The fact that something is "debatable" doesn't make all opinions on the matter equally valid. In this case, Ron has facts, logic, and the majority of experts of the subject on his side. Perhaps if he buried you in a barrage of lengthy copy-and-pastes, you'd understand this.

Anyways: Of course al-Qaeda wants the US in Iraq. And of course they're going to announce that it's their goal is to drive the US out of Iraq. American soldiers in an Arab/Muslim country is great PR for al-Qaeda, proving everything they've claimed for years about us. And a goal like "driving out the Crusaders" is a wonderfully effective recruitment tool. Same sort of deal the US military did after 9/11. This is all common knowledge. Yanno, what everyone knows.

Go ahead. Say something like "Al-Qaeda is a liberal invention meant to advance the gay/global warming agenda in Catholic schools!" Or "I say the Earth is a mystical cube of angel-dander, and 'evolution' is a homosexual-Muslim plot!" Or, more likely, a bunch of copy-and-pasted articles saying so. You're wrong about most everything, and you're not convincing anyone. No-one here is that fucking stupid.

---Lepus Rex