Actually F diminished, your claim that a discussion in this forum can diminish the fRoots forum simply isn't true. Mudcat simply hasn't that level of influence and sway over the fRoots forum or vice versa. Despite there being a handful of cross-posters (far fewer, I'm guessing, than there are between Charlie Gillett's and the Beeb boards), the fRoots forum is very far off the radar of most people who are regulars here, with the exception of the Anglophile clique.

And besides, we've the Rt Hon John from Hull.

The vast majority of this thread has been people clowning around and taking the piss out of some egomaniacs who worship nothing more than their own opinions and their hyper-developed ability to put down, humiliate, and shame others. It always makes people squirm when you name names. Truth hurts, too. But we are all big people here. People who can't take criticism maybe shouldn't be so quick with the knife between the ribs, eh?

Yes, that includes Lizzie. Yes it was quite trollish of her to cross-post. Yes, this thread is a bit catty. So what?

But this thread also includes another major flame queen, Countess Richard. And over in the fRoots forum, it is clear that nothing that is being said here is having any influence whatsoever upon the thread where Mr. Anderson's question is being discussed.

The fRoots editor, I noticed yesterday (while perusing his and Charlie Gillett's forum), spends some considerable amount of his forum posting time at Charlie's board. In the fRoots thread being discussed here, the editor compared his board to Charlie's and found his wanting. Hence his starting of the thread. The responses to his query does indicate he has a problem on his board. That was apparently evident enough for even the editor to take notice of, so any claim that this Mudcat thread has destroyed the fRoots forum or besmirched any of it's inhabitants is ludicrous.

Does he truly want to know why Charlie has a better board than he does? Maybe. Can he handle the truth? I suppose those who give a shit one way or the other will just have to wait and see until he returns from Gloccamorra or whatever 'world' music capitals he is taking his holiday safaris in these days.

To be continued? Of course, 'tis the nature of the public chat forum beast.