Thanks again guys, This is a really cool site, with some kind folks, and im glad i found it, maybe i'll ask my grandpa to think up some other stuff, to look for, since ya all are so helpful. I wonder how many members, there actually were.. and there real names. any sites i might try? oh ya also, what about a good site to find out prices on antique musical instruments... to get an estimated value. Thanks.. Type to ya soon.... Jeff