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Thread #93035   Message #1785125
Posted By: Mo the caller
16-Jul-06 - 06:06 PM
Thread Name: folklore: Welsh pronunciation & other Welsh stuff
Subject: RE: BS: Welsh pronunciation & other Welsh stuff
Yes the Great Orme is a hill or headland on Llandudno. I live a few miles from the welsh border and all I know is Ll is pronounced 'cl' (and I expect that's a simplification).

As for the "nigger in the woodpile" it is a saying, like "the fly in the ointment" meaning a disadvantage or drawback (I'm not sure if they mean quite the same). It was certainly used when I was growing up, not so much now perhaps. Though some people get very heated about the "stupidity" of "political correctness" and will insist that e.g. no-one could possibly object to a harmless children's toy (not my view now)