Pro's and cons, my argument for opening another thread, indeed I tried it and it got "lost", is because I am on dial up and it takes forever to load up all the messages in this thread, especially since I have read intently the contents of most of the messages posted, I am only interested in what is happening now, not what was happening in 2003. However, this is a powerful and worthy archive to keep and it needs to be stored for future reference. Why can't the posts be archived so the "live" info tree/debate is more up to date. If one reads the threads you can realise this is going to be a long haul and much moral support is going to be needed. Thankfully our local authority is very keen to promote live music and requires concrete proof from objectors, which of course there isn't any (they can't predict future noise and nuisance levels). So, they may object afterwards but they need evidence such as the council noise pollution police, it will not happen. Other authorities are not so enlightened thus this thread is neccessary and important. So less bickering, there is a job to do.

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Stallion, after two days, your message was the only one in the new thread you started - so I moved your message into this thread. You'll find it below.
-Joe Offer-