Not sure of who and what they were all about, but my Rog and I had a great time listening to Tony go head-to-head with the opposition on CSPAN, last night. It was taped last Wednesday and there was some heated repartee about the ID cards, etc. I wish our Congress were so in each others' faces and that they were literally almost eye-to-eye. The way they debate over here seems so ponderous, wimpy, and megalithic in comparison.