Fair enough, DtG. I will buy that as an honest explanation. I have always said that when one looks at the history of Ulster fairly, then they will understand that historically this has very little to do with Catholic/Protestant or Loyalist/Republican Nationalist. It's roots lie in the industrialist mentality that felt as though their rights to profits were God given and that the working class were the tool given to them to be used as they saw fit. When the working class, Protestant and Catholic alike, started to realize they had more in common than not, the English industrialists played the card that is with us today. As this whole phenomenon interbred with itself it was twisted into the intellectual wreckage that is strewn all about 6 counties. At the very root, of course, it goes all the way back to the plantation policies, but the catalyst, or straw that broke the back, lies squarely in the industrial age. That is why it is easy for the English apologists to use demagogery to make their points. There is several centuries of acts to choose from. But when one approaches it with an overview, it is clear who the villain is and what the solution is. It is also clear where, thanks be to God, it will end.

Mick