I was once told that Pen-y-ghent meant hill of wind. Wikipedia says it means 'top of ghent'. Which is very useful;-) There are lots of Norse place names in the area as well so there could be some of that around. Following the dales north from there (Ribblesdale) there is Chapel-le-dale and the Kingsdale (vi-kings apparantly.) Gragareth stands to the North of that. At the head is Yordas cave - Yorda being a Norse giant with a liking for little boys. Social Services here I come...

Back to Welsh pronunciation I was once driving around Wrexham looking for a little place called Llay. Knowing about the 'Ll' I asked a local for directions.

"Ooooh, let me see now. Llay? Llay? No don't know it. Oh, hang on, you mean Ll -eye..."

I'm sure you Welsh buggers make it up just to confuse us English invaders:-)

Once in a pub in Clynnog Fawr on the Lleyn peninsula (go on - talk us through that) I overheard a conversation in Welsh. I recognised the bit when one bloke said "F^&*ing Black and Decker" :D

Cheers

DtG