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Thread #92760   Message #1787127
Posted By: stallion
19-Jul-06 - 06:21 AM
Thread Name: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
alluded to inan earlier post
Big Mick
"I have always said that when one looks at the history of Ulster fairly, then they will understand that historically this has very little to do with Catholic/Protestant or Loyalist/Republican Nationalist. It's roots lie in the industrialist mentality that felt as though their rights to profits were God given and that the working class were the tool given to them to be used as they saw fit."
THe real tragedy of the film was the civil war, which appears to be a straight fight between socialists and the Irish elite driven opposition. I know, that is a gross over simplification, I am aware that "battle fatigue" etc come into the equation. What did come across is the hopelessness of ordinary people caught up in it, if you cracked under torture then you were branded a quisling and, if enduring that wasn't enough, shot by the people you had "informed on". We are not talking sophisticated Machevelian politico freedom fighters we are talking simple folk, in simple jobs who probably had little experience of the outside world other than that which was taken to them, the whole business was a tragedy.
Relating to the "encouraged by Industrialisation"(my words), it was surely that that put paid to slavery, slave owning required land to feed them at "no cost" during hard times, having slaves in factories would have been uneconomic as they had a value one would have to spend money to maintain ones investment, as soon as it was realised that "wage slavery" had all the benefits of slavery without any of the responsibilities, then slavery was dead in the water.